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« on: December 21, 2005, 03:06:20 PM »

If I have a homeowner sign a contract that is less than what the bank is asking, how do I explain why such a low offer?  I've had a homeowner almost yelling at me  sad  Has anyone else had this problem?
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2005, 03:12:16 PM »

Sorry, I forgot to add..

I wanted the homeowner to sign 3 contracts with 3 different offer so I can submit to Lender the lowest offer first for short sale payoff and if they refuse, fax over next one. ... but the homeowner refused to sign multiple agreements.  Am I approaching this wrong?  
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2005, 03:27:47 PM »

I generally have them sign 3 blank contracts that I fill in later.

You might explain to your soon to be exhome owner that time is of the escience. That when you're on the phone with the loss/mit folks that you may need to fax another offer immediately. That to have to wait another day to come back to you and get another one signed makes you look unprofessional to the loss/mit folks of the lender and could severly jepordize your negotiations.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2005, 07:03:57 PM »

And the homeowner freely signs a blank contract?
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2005, 07:24:26 PM »

they sign them every time. If you havn't gained their trust....after all...you're helping them out of a bad situation.....you need to refine your approach to the homeowner.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2005, 07:18:35 AM »

Hi Crzy8,

I would suggest checking the laws in your state rergarding agents having 'blank' forms signed by principals.

If time is of the essence, as it often is, you get them with you and your fax machine, or near their own fax machine, and hammer it out until the deal is signed.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2005, 12:13:29 PM »

you can get them to sign a blank contract or put payoff amount as the purchase price and add a clause that the payoff is subject to successful short sale with lender.

i've done both ways and its work fine.

It never hurts to remind the homeowner that you are trying to save their home from foreclosure and time is limited.  

Good Luck,
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2005, 01:40:56 PM »

I heard that you can simply put 'payoff' in that spot, if the lender asks it will go into the hud 1 whatever you finally negotiate.  That way you dont go back to the homeowner and keep on bothering them.  Heard that from an audio.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2005, 02:01:27 PM »

thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

kikaider69: what do you mean "it will go into the hud 1"
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2005, 02:46:56 PM »

if you put "payoff" for the purchase amount don't forget to put in the addendum that it is subject to lender short sale or discount.  I forgot to put it on one before and the lender call me and asked if I was agreeing to pay off the full amount owed because thats what the contract says.  Luckily the contract expired before they called me anyway.  It was fixed and I got them to discount a 55k mortgage to 30K. and waived the deficency judgement.

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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2005, 08:50:25 PM »

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kikaider69: what do you mean "it will go into the hud 1"

SOrry, its also known as AKA settlement sheet.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2005, 08:01:37 PM »

Is the settlement sheet prepared by the attorney or myself?  In my state we cannot just use a title company.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2005, 06:27:48 AM »

From what I understand the different experts out there is that you can send in a preliminary settlement sheet, but I believe the final needs to be prepared by your attorney/title company.  Again, as always, if I missed something.  those more knowledgeable about this than me can correct me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 05:01:13 PM »

hi all,

i'm curious........why is the homeowner accepting your help in the first place?.
what inducement is in it for him to be so cooperative with you,
are you paying him money ? etc.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2006, 09:36:46 AM »

We dont pay him money per se, when short sales are done, the banks mandate the homeowner doesnt get a red cent from the transaction.
Because he doesnt want to deal with the mortgaage anymore, it could be to high for them to pay. maybe they went thru divorce or somebody died.  There are myriad reasons why.  They want to get on with their lives, maybe save their credit so they can buy a house down the roadwhen they are better financial shape.   From what I understand(not having pulled the trigger on my deal yet), you need to empathic with the homeowver so that they decide youare the one to help them and not somebody else.
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