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« on: July 12, 2006, 04:15:59 PM »

Today I did my first 2 door knocks!

1st - Homeowner not there.
2nd - Homeowner answered the door.
I introduced myself and told her I am here to see if I could assist her with her mortgage.

Man, did she lie between her teeth or what.

I told her that I saw in the paper that she is defaulting (I said it in a nicer way) and wanted to know if I could help her.

She said "Huh, what are you talking about, my mortgage is okay"

Me "Well it was published in this paper (showed her the Notice of Default), and I call the debt collector today, and they advised me that the loan is in default"

All of a sudden I refreshed her memory, and she was upset at this point that I called her bad "poker" face.

Her 'Well I just got from vacation and these mortgage companies act all crazy when you have paid for 2 months. I just go off the phone with them this and everything is ok, I am all caught up"

Did a little chit chat about the housing market, and then I was done.

Me "Okay we'll here is my Business Card, call me if things dont work out'

So I go back to my car, and call the debt collector, he told me that the auction is still set and she hasnt paid a dime.

Now, I am going to send her follow-up letters if I continue to see her notice of defaults in the paper.

The reason I wrote this is because I read this article http://www.creonline.com/articles/art-229.html
and SCRIPT 2 is just like my senerio, where the homeowner tried to act as if she didnt know what I was talking about.

My tips:
Have the notice of default with you.
Dont leave without providing the homeowner with a way of contacting you.
If the homeowner seems upset that the mortgage company/debt collector published their name and address in the paper (most homeowners dont know it gets published), say something like "Yes, these mortgage companies and debt collectors over extend themselves to much" This will put you on the homeowner side.


Thats my story, now I'm off to 2 more pre-foreclosures.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 05:00:34 PM »

Wow ... I'm surprised she didn't just tell you to get lost. Really, who are you to walk up to her door and tell her she's behind on her mortgage and that you called her debt collector? Do you really think that women will keep your card? You basically told her she was lying, embarrassed her for sure, and made her angry and uncomfortable. Nice ....

I'm glad there are people like you knocking on doors so when I get to talk the the homeowner, I'll be a breath of fresh air and get the sale.  Wink

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 05:17:05 PM »

It was sort of like that.

I told her that I spoke with the debt collector, earlier and showed her the TRUSTEE ARTICLE that was published in the paper. I wasnt mean about it, I just wanted to show her incase she didnt know. (or refresh her memory). But I'll be back at her house next week if the mortgage is still in default. The conversation will go a little different. I am going to be more soft spoken and let her know the drawbacks of allowing her home to go into foreclosure, and see if I can go from there.

I bet you she kept my card, she wasnt upset by the time I left her front door. After we started chit chatting about the real estate market (she said she used to be a mortgage broker), she opened up and said she was a few months behind but everything was all caught up. I cant call someone a lier if there not telling the truth, know what I mean.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 06:07:51 PM »

Oh okay ... the way it was written sounded a lot harsher. I think she'll probably talk to you again if you got to talking more. Good Luck! Let us know if you get the deal.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2006, 06:07:37 AM »

I heard recently a fresh approach, maybe for people with kids, is to just take your kid and pu rse, no paperwork, or hidden in purse or pocket, and knock on door.  When they see the kids, they open up the door and you say that you are "looking for a house in the neighborhood, and you want to know if they know anyone who is selling"
I guess it makes them take the guard down and they may confess they want to sell.  If they say no, you don't have any friction at the door and you can both part ways with dignity.
Also, if the homeowner lets you in- walk around, and then write up an intent to purchase on a legal pad (sounds strange I know) or a contract you have in the purse.  (at least it shows you have something in case you find a deal), and then work out a price and then assign it.
You can say you like the house but it isin't exactly what you are looking for but you have a few others that would like it....that type of thing.
i havent tried it but I have 2 kids and am tossing around the idea....I told the kids of they come oout with me and mommy gets a deal, I will give them $100...if no success, maybe a happy meal!  : Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2006, 08:33:49 AM »

Sounds like an idea - but be careful whose house you walk into by yourself as a woman and also with your kids. I also don't know if I'd want the distraction of my kids while doing business.  Wink It also sounds a little like a ruse to me. I know that I will be bringing another adult with me when I go to homes. You just never know what you will get yourself into with people in dire straights. Just be careful out there.  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2006, 09:01:53 AM »

Good advice.  I wouldn't be going into the ghetto with the kids, but I would pick the right neighborhoods, etc.  I was thinking maybe a girlfriend to tag along with you.  Then mabey if she sees you make a deal she will become a door knocker for you.  Good recruiting tool....
I bet it would be good for the high end neighborhoods.  I have been in a few houses that have given me the creeps before, and I NEVER go into basements unless I want to end up down there for good!
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 10:09:28 AM »

and I NEVER go into basements unless I want to end up down there for good!

lol good advice Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 04:17:55 PM »

why don't you just follow your default leads with a nice letter that way you don't piss them off face to face a letter might come over alot easier

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 11:50:16 AM »

I just don't know about the whole knocking on doors idea.  I figure that if you knock on lets say 30 doors...you might get say 1 or 2 leads which may or may not make it to contract.  On the flip side...out of those same 30 door knocks....you may or may not get mugged by the owner on all 30.  I just don't like the odds.  I think a personalized letter w/ a business card and possibly a follow up phone call would work better.  Save yourself from the bodily harm....!!
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2006, 03:41:29 PM »

Its whatever floats your boat and you feel comfortable with.

Investors tend to have better conversion rates with a door knock than a letter.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 07:49:14 PM »

Hi I am Mike from Orlando FL.

Hey cherdwelth can you tell us newbies here how you aprouch the owners in this situations.



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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2006, 01:23:56 PM »

Hi - I personally don't knock on doors. But like Blueboxer said, if it works for you do it.

We do a direct mail campaign.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2006, 01:26:01 PM »

I have try the mail campain but no responses. I don't have the money to pay for a firm to handle my mail yet.

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2006, 01:50:22 PM »

Hi - We don't either. We purchase postcards and mail them to specific people in foreclosure. You can also do letters which is very inexpensive.  You would need the 39 cents per mailer though.

As for door knocking, you probably should target your houses because with gas at $3.00 per gallon - it could be more than direct mailings.

Are you going to walk a neighborhood or target pre-foreclosed houses? You could also walk the neighborhood and deliver flyers you've made up - killing two birds.

Or pick out an area you want to target and farm - concentrating your efforts in one area. We're targeting our whole city through mailings. I agree with you that the response isn't the best. Any direct mail response no matter the subject is only 1 - 2 % of the total mailing. So out of 1000 you mail you might get 10 people to call - then you need to get those 10 people to sell to you. If it were that easy, we'd all be millionaires!

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