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« on: July 04, 2004, 08:17:22 AM »

I just purchased a 4 flat (not as investment property, but owner-occupied)
I'l live in one unit, and rent the other 3.

1-Can I deduct the $25k as "Inactive investment" even though it was not purchased as "investment property"?
2-If so, do I need to justify it (show empty apt), or I  can deduct it right of the bat?

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2004, 09:12:39 AM »

Howdy 4flat:

Sorry you are not getting some more replies. I will give you what I think and would do in your case.

If you rent property out it is investment property. Since you live in one of the units I would consider 100% of the income as investment income  from the three units. You do not count your rent unless a Corp or LLC or partnership owns the building and you are renting from that entity. I would only use 75% of the expenses to maintain the building including interest, taxes, lawn care etc and report these and the income on schedule E. The $25,000 you asked about is the max you can deduct to offset other earned income and you may or may not have that much of a loss depending on you income and expenses and depreciation allowance. I would also deduct the balance of the interest expense on schedule A (25%) if the amount is enough where it is a benefit  you over the standard deduction.

Disclaimer: I aint no darn CPA but have been doing my own taxes for years and I did not stay at a Holliday Inn  Expess last night either. Hope you can use this.  
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2004, 11:01:46 PM »

Going with the 75%, the rent income minus all expenses (mortgage interest, PMI, maintenance, etc) I break even (let's assume).
Can I still deduct depreciation?
With accelerated depreciation is 3.75% of the 75% of the building:
$450k x 0.75 x 3.75= $12,656
If so, can say that I had a $12k loss?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 07:32:00 AM »

Howdy again 4flat:

That is the idea behind depreciation. Keep in mind the recapture rules that I know little about. If you use straight line I believe you are OK but to use accelerated may be too much too soon and you may have to pay back some of the tax . CPA advice would be better here.
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