How to find bird dogs

[janetmm2004]

I'm interested in finding bird dogs in my area.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to contact and find some?
Any advice or tips would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Janet

[merv]

Please explain what are "bird dogs"?  I have never heard that term.
Thanks

[SD Newbie]

Take a look at this link...

http://www.reiclub.com/freebies.php

There is a free ebook titled 'Real Estate Jobber 101' and it will give you a better understanding of what a 'bird dogger' is along with the functions...

I hope this helps...

Do yourself a favor and look at the other free ebooks that are available for your own personal RE education.

Take Care...

[panici]

I am in the Midwest bird dogging - but I am locating properties for people in CA investing in NY - so you can bird dog wherever you are located for anyone.  

[jhak]

I'm interested in bird-dogging in the West.  For those who bird-dog a large area, how hot are the leads?  How are they found?Do you get paid per lead or only at closing?

[panici]

The leads are hot - I just look through the internet all the time.  You have to ask your investors what criteria they want you to find, then go for it!  I get paid when they close.

[drackard]

i am looking for birddogs also. im in the knoxville tn area .looking for a rehab , foreclosure etc idont have a lot of experience. but have done acouple deals iam in the plumbing bis and reallyy didnt make the time to go after the RE bislike i needed to  in order to be successful. istumbled on this web site by accident. and have learned a tremendous amount reading the postings. so any comments or pointers will be great :o

[JerseyGirl]

I am in the Midwest bird dogging - but I am locating properties for people in CA investing in NY - so you can bird dog wherever you are located for anyone.  

Hey Panici

How & Why do you bird dog in other areas of the country?
I know that money & knowledge are a factor but I'm curious as to what else is in it for you.

Dont get me wrong I think its a great idea & I have had thoughts of other areas but I haven't run across anyone doing what you're doing.

Sounds fascinating...do tell!  

[cjterry_nc]

I do Bird Dogging in NC, but am looking to expand to other areas such as SC and VA.  I do it because it helps me learn the investor biz a little better and of course it's a great way to earn extra income.  

[joehagan222]

Hey;

Bird dogging (101) . Try this---reinclubs (In your area) .com.
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[ARamirez]

I think it would be hard to bird dog deals not in your 'driving' area. The reason being you need to actually view these properties otherwaise what you are doing is the same an investor could do, right?

Also, I noticed someone was using the internet to find deals. What is it you are actually doing? MLS type listings?

In all actuality if you are bird dogging you should be getting these houses under a contract in your name. In alot or maybe even MOST states it is illegal to get paid for referring real estate. You need to go ahead and get those deals you find under contract and then assign them for cash to an investor and let him carry it through.

This takes no money and no credit, but does require you to meet with the owners not working with agents in most cases. These deals are found by marketing your services, getting people's houses sold by letting the right investors know about them.

[JerseyGirl]

I think it would be hard to bird dog deals not in your 'driving' area. The reason being you need to actually view these properties otherwaise what you are doing is the same an investor could do, right?

Also, I noticed someone was using the internet to find deals. What is it you are actually doing? MLS type listings?

In all actuality if you are bird dogging you should be getting these houses under a contract in your name. In alot or maybe even MOST states it is illegal to get paid for referring real estate. You need to go ahead and get those deals you find under contract and then assign them for cash to an investor and let him carry it through.

This takes no money and no credit, but does require you to meet with the owners not working with agents in most cases. These deals are found by marketing your services, getting people's houses sold by letting the right investors know about them.

Hey AR,

Wouldn't that make you a flipper instead of a bird dog?
If you're going to go through with getting the contract & speaking with the owner, I would think that this person has the knowledge & experience to just do the deal themselves...or am I missing something?

 

[ARamirez]

Jersey,

You are exactly right! Tell me what the difference is between a bird dog and a wholesaler?

Neither of them need the following:
Cash
Credit

They both must have:
A list of investors/buyers
Knowledge of how to find deals
Knowledge in knowing if a house is a deal or not

The difference between the two?

Bird Dog - gets paid around $500 for telling the investor what the address is.

Wholesaler - locks up the property in a contract and gets the investor to pay them $1,000 - $5,000 for assigning the contract to them.

[JerseyGirl]

Jersey,

You are exactly right! Tell me what the difference is between a bird dog and a wholesaler?

Neither of them need the following:
Cash
Credit

They both must have:
A list of investors/buyers
Knowledge of how to find deals
Knowledge in knowing if a house is a deal or not

The difference between the two?

Bird Dog - gets paid around $500 for telling the investor what the address is.

Wholesaler - locks up the property in a contract and gets the investor to pay them $1,000 - $5,000 for assigning the contract to them.

The line between bird dogging & wholesaling is so thin that I often get really confused  :o and find that I'm also riding the fence  

I do find leads but I want to do more than find leads, I want to know what makes it a good lead  >

However, I know that I'm new & I'm trying DESPERATELY (not sure if its working  ) to crawl before I walk  

[ARamirez]

Jersey,

Again you are right! SO you are catching on and absorbing information. Personally, I think that a bird dog and a wholesaler are the same thing if I am the one doing that type of work.

If I am the investor wanting to use bird dogging services I would not want peeps to send me leads when they don't have any idea what makes a good deal.

That being said you (figuratively) shouldn't call yourself a bird dog if you have no idea what makes a good deal.

If new potential REIs are looking to start making money at this with out much experience and no cash or credit you need to learn what a good deal is to other established investors and then find those deals for them so they can pay you for bringing them their money makers.

Understand I am not saying 'you' as in YOU. I just like to try and shed some light on things I have seen and read. The REI club in my area gives me the impression they are elite investors that have no time to spend with noobs. These forums have given me the feeling that peeps here REALLY do want to help noobs so... Anyways, the guys in my REI club's forums hate noobs who give them leads that are worthless or that screw up potential GOOD deals to where there is not money in it later.

Keep checking these forums to find out what rehabbers want in a deal. Find out what makes a good subject to (sub2) deal. These are 2 things you will come across alot in REI. They will keep ya busy.

Good Luck!