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« on: July 20, 2007, 11:30:25 AM »

When u see the cranes in your city u know a recession is coming

just an observation over the years,,,some may get this this


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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 11:51:14 AM »

I'm lost......anyone know what he's talking about?
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 12:08:12 PM »

i think he's referring to the bloomberg article i posted about earlier regarding miami... there was a paragraph about how all these projects had already been funded and now miami has a ton of cranes still building condos, while there is a lot of supply still.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 12:27:53 PM »

huh?  This statement is too general and probably incorrect most of the time.  Certainly there are overbuilt markets like Miami.  However, when I see cranes and money start pouring into a submarket, that is typically a good sign.  Infact that is what I target. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 01:03:30 PM »


When I was in Germany, the cranes built nests in chimneys....does that count?

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 01:20:25 PM »

Bizarrefun is right.

2 years ago I went to Miami with a friend of mine, he was buying pre-construction condos down there by the boat load.  When I saw the skyline I commented on all the cranes.  I said "Man, this looks a little scary, can this market absorb all this inventory?"
He looked at me like I had 3 heads.   "It's gold mine down here"
 
"OK, but this level of building CAN'T LAST." 

2 years later my friend owns 3 new condos, can't sell ANY of them for what he paid and now has 3 beautiful NEGATIVE cash flowing RENTALS.

The point Bizarre was making is if it looks like the new state bird is the building crane get ready for a coming downturn in that market.  Cripes, it's basic economics people,  you over build, you discount, go bankrupt, or rent 'em.   None of those scenerios makes money.  It's all out there in front of us, some people see it and some don't.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 08:14:39 PM »

Yeah but to compare every metropolitan area with cranes to a market like Miami is a bit over the top.  Certainly there are cases of overbuilding.  And ofcourse there is a macro economy at play.  However, to evaluate an area correctly you need to consider the micro cycles of the given market/submarket.  Typically, when builders come to build and money pours into the area for development, it creates a positive upswing.  Development should not be viewed as a negative. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 08:33:21 AM »

one of my business colleagues from tradeshows just lost 40k in miami on one of those......i told him a year ago,,,,

no listen....

hehe  lol


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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 10:58:24 AM »

If thats the case, then Beijing is in trouble.  Actually I should say all of China!

What about Dubai?
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 11:33:11 AM »

According to greater minds than mine, there are some clouds on China's horizon. What's the old sports motto? Thing's are never as good as they seem when you're winning or as bad as they seem when you're losing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2007, 12:29:07 PM »

india and vietnam will replace china,.,,,


read your history,,,,,,,,,

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2007, 12:48:19 PM »

They certainly will. Definately read your history, but read some economics to. And don't ignore the classics like David Ricardo.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2007, 05:20:25 PM »

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hehe  lol

I'll have what he is having....... rolleyes
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2007, 05:56:22 PM »


I'm thinking that whatever it is that he's having will have long-term ill effects...

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 08:05:38 AM »

Don't know about anyone else but I'm tired of seeing "my 2 cents" and using commas to replace periods, I'm losing my mind.  banghead
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