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« on: August 21, 2009, 12:54:42 PM »

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32505284/ns/business-the_new_york_times/
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »

Excellent article Chris....Thanks for posting it.

Here's an intersting bit of info.....

If in the year ONE (1) AD you took an amount of money equal to a modern PENNY and compounded it yearly at 3 %..........

There is NOT THAT MUCH MONEY ON THE PLANET.......ALL currencies added together.....EVERYTHING INCLUDED!!!!

This is how CYCLES function........I live in New England.....IN Newport Rhode Island you can visit the SUMMER COTTAGES of the Vanderbilts, Astors and the other SUPER RICH of the early 1900's.....When the depression hit....These folks lost MILLIONS.....and continued to lose millions for decades.

On the other hand....The years following the depression BUILT todays modern middle class.  Those super rich from the early 1900's had a 30 year run....The Middle class in comparison had a 60 year run.

Now we are repeating the cycle that took place in the 1930's.  Instead of a new BOAT and a NEW CAR....The STATUS symbols of 2009 are a PAID OFF MORTGAGE and NO DEBT!!!!   People are learning that there really are consequences for their actions and mistakes.  For SOME these lessons will be life changing and lasting...For others, they will be meaningless.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2009, 09:46:17 AM »

The part that blew me away was when they talked about that software mogul who went from being worth $100M to only 4M. That is a 96% drop. Talk about wanting to jump out a window... I know 4M is a lot of money, but the lifestyle you get accustomed to at 100M is SIGNIFICANTLY different than that of of the one you live when you have 4M.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 12:01:39 PM »

Yea, talk about a wake up call...

Some GREAT LESSONS in that piece...Especially for Real Estate investors....ie...When you're out of MONEY.....You're out of the GAME!!!

Having a $200,000 cash cushion is to me,  mandatory!!  Without that $200K of dead money I wouldn'take the risks I do on some of the properties I buy.  I find that having that cash (just for Real estate flipping) creates an enviroment where I can concentrate on the DEAL without having to worry about the MONEY....If the deal is good the money is there...BUT....If you're worrying about money (the way the guy in the article is now) you are at a sizeable disadvantage.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 01:59:33 PM »

I deal with a few investors on deals and they have been real reserved about how much they wanna spend.I try to keep the ball rollin and keep spirits up,if you let it judge when you'll invest you never will.It's hard to keep it sane knowing that I'm more up on what the govt & economy is doing than they are.Another unwelcomed obsticle we have to work through.........rock on capitalism,don't give in.   
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 02:36:49 PM »

Liberals should be happy.  Those rich bastards are getting what they deserve!  SALUTE OBAMA!
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 08:14:35 PM »

Hoosier...  lol...

From the article...

"The rich, as a group, are no longer getting richer. Over the last two years, they have become poorer."

Oh no! Now what mantra are they going to come up with?! 
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 08:59:42 PM »

Here's one.......

I can't finish my flip so I spend all my time on REICLUB!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2009, 09:14:27 PM »

fdjake.. gosh, why do you have to make everything so personal?

Im sure Postive will finish his flip eventually Smiley   lol jp
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2009, 09:19:56 PM »

HOOSIER....

Are you sh*ttin me?????

You whine about more crap than any 200 teenagers I know!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 09:22:43 PM »

Yeah Yeah Yeah jake,  keep sippin the haterade. I wouldnt say I whine that much... come on.



On a side note,I personally agree with almost everything Positive says.  You rock, postive!
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 10:13:03 PM »

Fdjake,

"You whine about more crap than any 200 teenagers I know!!"

Do you not see the absolute irony of how you whine the MOST about other people whining?   LOL...  as a matter of fact, if you type your name and "whine", "whiner" and "whining" in on the search bar, you'll embarrasslingly find that is the case...  may want to go back and "modify" some of those posts to bring the numbers down....   biglaugh lol

"On a side note,I personally agree with almost everything Positive says.  You rock, postive!"

Now you've done it... you've unleashed the vitriol of the "great in his own mind" Fdjake towards you...  you sure you are ready for this???   biggrin
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009, 07:21:50 AM »

WOW....

Positive, you've got an 18 YEAR OLD fan!!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 09:19:47 AM »

Fdjake,

"Positive, you've got an 18 YEAR OLD fan!!!!!"

That's your response?!...  lol   biglaugh lol

From what I've read from him, he is more in line with the thinking of the founding of the country than you are at 42 years old... that's gotta' be quite humbling... WHAT AM I THINKING, we're talking Fdjake, here...

Like I said - the search bar is your enemy FDjake...  think about that reality...
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2009, 09:48:14 AM »

I'll take that any day over YOUR enemy....

THE TRUTH!!!

You can have Hoosier.....He's a PERFECT match for you....He talks and talks but DOES NOTHING too!!!!!!

A match made in heaven.....Where ABORTION IS NEVER LEGAL! biggrin
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