Dr. Chu weighs in on Global Warming

[furnishedowner]

I happened to catch an article in TIME, Aug. 24, 2009 edition about Dr. Steven Chu, our new Director of the Dept. of Energy.

This man is very well-thought of in scientific circles, according to my working scientist source. Scientists are thrilled to finally have someone of his caliber leading the DOE, not just a political hack.

He is a Nobel Prize Winner.  Probably the best-credentialed Energy Secretary ever.

Dr. Chu just came back from visiting China.  China and Dr. Chu both believe in Global Warming/Climate Change.

"The good thing," says Dr. Chu, (approximate quote) "Is that we have a chance to fix it."

Another top-notch scientist weighing in on what effect man is having on the climate.  On a subject that is very politicized in the US.  Just read some old postings on this site, for you newcomers.

My scientist source, by the way, is not interested in debating a bunch of real estate people, online, on this scientific subject.  That was never offered or promised by me. A scientific debate could be interesting, but this is not the forum.  No one I have heard here has the background to debate climate change scientifically.  People just quote authors and papers that may not even be valid technically.

Let's listen to Dr. Steven Chu on this really important issue. We're going to be impacted by man-made climate change the rest of our lives.

Furnishedowner

[PositiveOutlook]

Furnishedowner,

"My scientist source, by the way, is not interested in debating a bunch of real estate people, online, on this scientific subject.  That was never offered or promised by me."

Uh, actually, you did...

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Furnishedowner - "So this is not written material I am analyzing like you all are, instead I have gone right to a source who can tell us in an expert opinion.  Are any of you out there scientists?  With enough expertise to debate this?"



"A scientific debate could be interesting, but this is not the forum.  No one I have heard here has the background to debate climate change scientifically.  People just quote authors and papers that may not even be valid technically"

Then your "deep throat" expert should be able to SLAM us...  or as you like to put it - "hammer your poor conservative brains into the ground"

He can look at it like a public service - If all our information is wrong, he can set EVERYONE straight...

"Dr. Chu"

You mean THIS Dr. Chu?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu

The one who does NOT have a background in climatology?  What is amuzing is he is actually one of those scientists YOU decry... You know, the ones YOU say don't have a background in climatology...

Very interesting....

[fdjake]

Furnished,

I hope you realize that you are costing POSITIVE money!!!

By putting this information on this site you have now set in motion a series of LONG  responses that will keep him away from his 11 month LONG UNFINISHED project.

But.....On the UPSIDE.....I guess we can all thank god that he has to TYPE his replies.....If this guy was TALKING, we'd definitely be ADDING to Global warming with all the HOT AIR

[propertymanager]

Global warming was never anything more than a scam.  The socialists used global cooling (the coming ice age) in the 70's to push their agenda and the American public was ignorant enough to believe them AGAIN in the 90's as they pushed global warming.  Global warming ended in 1998!  They want to blame man for whatever the climate is doing today, when in REALITY that bright spot in the sky (THE SUN) has much more influence than anything man could ever do.  Increased solar activity means warmer temps.  Less solar activity means cooler temps.  ALL PERFECTLY NATURAL!

Mike

[fdjake]

SEE.....THAT is how you make an INTELLIGENT rebuttal to a post you disagree with.

It's fine to disagree on this subject...It's actually GOOD...Just do it in a constructive way like Mike did.

[PositiveOutlook]

Fdjake,

"SEE.....THAT is how you make an INTELLIGENT rebuttal to a post you disagree with."

The fact that YOU, of ALL people, would consider yourself the arbitor of what an INTELLIGENT post is, well... COMPLETELY LAUGHABLE....   

"It's fine to disagree on this subject...It's actually GOOD...Just do it in a constructive way like Mike did."

What Mike did was actually ANSWER THE POST topic, not go off with the same straw man over and over again...  start there, and you might make some progress...

[John_in_NC]

Time Inc is CFR owned, did you know that? Of course they are going to publish an article supporting global warming....err I mean "climate change" now. Do you know anything about the CFR?? I actually have an old issue of Time from the 1970s predicting the global cooling that Mike was talking about. I I have front cover of it framed here in my office right next to the 2006 global warming article from Time as well.

I totally understand why members of the CFR would want create a man made climate hoax, to further their world socialism, but what I don't understand is, how can so many Americans be so damn naive about it?? Are we really this stupid as a population??? This is more scary than the hoax itself.

If anyone is interested, there is a wonderful article that was leaked from our government back in the 1960s called "The report from iron Mountain".

It's great reading and addresses the need to create a potential climate disaster in order to further their agenda.

[Bluemoon06]

It's actually a plot because the world is running out of food.  There is a saviour though it is called SOYLENT GREEN.

[jfpen]

I happened to catch an article in TIME, Aug. 24, 2009 edition about Dr. Steven Chu, our new Director of the Dept. of Energy.

This man is very well-thought of in scientific circles, according to my working scientist source. Scientists are thrilled to finally have someone of his caliber leading the DOE, not just a political hack.

He is a Nobel Prize Winner.  Probably the best-credentialed Energy Secretary ever.

Dr. Chu just came back from visiting China.  China and Dr. Chu both believe in Global Warming/Climate Change.

"The good thing," says Dr. Chu, (approximate quote) "Is that we have a chance to fix it."

Another top-notch scientist weighing in on what effect man is having on the climate.  On a subject that is very politicized in the US.  Just read some old postings on this site, for you newcomers.

My scientist source, by the way, is not interested in debating a bunch of real estate people, online, on this scientific subject.  That was never offered or promised by me. A scientific debate could be interesting, but this is not the forum.  No one I have heard here has the background to debate climate change scientifically.  People just quote authors and papers that may not even be valid technically.

Let's listen to Dr. Steven Chu on this really important issue. We're going to be impacted by man-made climate change the rest of our lives.

Furnishedowner

Instead, why don't we listen to John Christy and the 31,000 other scientists whose vocies are not being heard via the pop-culture media.

A member of the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says he and many other scientists do not see global warming as a developing catastrophe and there is no smoking gun proving that human activity is to blame for the warming that does occur.

John Christy is the director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama at Huntsville. He and thousands of others on the U.N. panel share half the Nobel Prize also awarded to Al Gore. But he says he cringes when he hears 100-year weather forecasts when it is incredibly difficult to accurately predict the weather five days from now.

He writes in The Wall Street Journal, "Mother Nature simply operates at a level of complexity that is, at this point, beyond the mastery of mere mortals (such as scientists) and the tools available to us."

He points out that a recent CNN report on climate change made much of the shrinking Arctic sea ice cover, but did not mention that winter sea ice around Antarctica set a record maximum last month.

[sellnbama]

John,
I'm with you on that 200%.How can so many fall for this.I guess it explains the last election also,,too many base their decisions on what "entertainers"are supporting and doing.I've really lost respect for alot of them once they started giving their opinions lately.   

[furnishedowner]

Exactly THAT Dr. Chu.  Who was UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED by the Senate for the position.

He has an incredible and broad scientific background.  Just read his bio.
Bush appointed a dentist to the post.

I don't care about the media on this subject. But I read the scientific magazines whenever I can.

This is very politicized.  Everyone is weighing in with what they think. Yes, It is incredibly complex.  But the big deal is the amount of man-made carbon that is altering the previously normal patterns.  That's the scary cascading effect that could impact us hugely.  That is the part we can change.

I'm going to defer to Dr. Chu on this subject.  Don't forget, in science, there is always dissent.  It is the scientific consensus that finally determines the new paths, not the nay-sayers.

Furnishedowner

[PositiveOutlook]

Furnishedowner,

Dr. Steven Chu is the SECRETARY, not Director of Energy...


"Exactly THAT Dr. Chu.  Who was UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED by the Senate for the position."

From what I've read, Bush had two Secretary's of Energy.... Spencer Abraham and Samual Bodman, who were BOTH UNANIMOUSLY CONFIRMED...  your point is?  That means the Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY for one of the two you now have a disagreement with...

"He has an incredible and broad scientific background."

Yes, but he does NOT have a climatology background that YOU said scientists have to have...  If that is not longer the case there are 10's of thousands of scientist, with "incredible and broad scientific background's" that DISAGREE with man-made global warming...

"This is very politicized."

Hmmmm.... I wonder why?? 

"But the big deal is the amount of man-made carbon that is altering the previously normal patterns.  That's the scary cascading effect that could impact us hugely."

And yet during the same time this carbon has INCREASED to it's highest recorded level, the temps have DROPPED... this is THE reason for man-made global warming... increased carbon, and yet the OPPOSITE happened... and COMMON SENS does not tell you to call into QUESTION the premise???

"That is the part we can change."

It hasn't been PROVEN we even NEED TO at a cost of TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of dollars that could be used for nationalized heathcare...

They RELY on the fact that people will be like you and not educate yourself on the subject, and ACCEPT what you are being fed... but that IS changing BECAUSE people now see how it will affect EVERYONE, INCLUDING the poor, financially...   

[furnishedowner]

The Goddard Institute reported that the 2008 annual summation of global warming was twice the magnitude reported in 1981.

The glaciers are in retreat.

Fox News was just chastised for reporting global cooling. It was simply not true.
Scientists have identified a long-term global warming trend.

Local temperatures are becoming more extreme.

This July, the global ocean surface temperature was the highest ever recorded.

Anybody here read "The Tipping Point"?!

Serious stuff. And Dr. Chu is enormously credentialed.  Scientists often cover a broader spectrum than you may know.

Furnishedowner

[sellnbama]

So I guess "nay sayers" are the scientists that prove it's .Also were you around the last winter? You know the one that set cold records.Also it snowed in new orleans,,,enough said I think.

[jfpen]

The Goddard Institute reported that the 2008 annual summation of global warming was twice the magnitude reported in 1981.

The glaciers are in retreat.

Fox News was just chastised for reporting global cooling. It was simply not true.
Scientists have identified a long-term global warming trend.

Local temperatures are becoming more extreme.

This July, the global ocean surface temperature was the highest ever recorded.

Anybody here read "The Tipping Point"?!

Serious stuff. And Dr. Chu is enormously credentialed.  Scientists often cover a broader spectrum than you may know.

Furnishedowner

Furnishedowner,
             I call this Britney Spears Pop Science. It takes more than computer models (GIGO) based on extrapolated data sets to be science. Why are the voices of 31000 real scientists being silenced? Follow the money.

READ THIS AND FOLLOW THE LINKS TO THE SUPPORTING DATA

http://www.isthereglobalwarming.com/