NEWSFLASH!!! THIS JUST IN....

[fdjake]

The DIFFERENCE between RESPECTING the President and SCREAMING..... "YOU LIE".....Directly AT a sitting President....DURING a speech that is NATIONALLY TELEVISED and held in a formal setting is VASTLY different than anything said between people on investment blogs so let's cut the  right there.


Some people would like to gloss over that and forget it ever happened.
I'm just not one of them......

If Obama did the same thing.....I'd be of the EXACT same opinion...

This health care issue is Obama's fight to win or lose.....So far he's LOSING but the battle isn't over.  Hopefully....a compromise can be reached and something can be done to improve a broken system.

[Bluemoon06]

You see all politicians lie.  That is not an issue.  If this congressman was surprised by that he shouldn’t be walking around on his own.  And if this congressman is so out of control of his emotions that he can’t control shouting out in public then he would also kill somebody in the heat of the moment.  Again he should be walking around on his own.  The guy is a nut.

When I ask my tenant for the rent and she says that she had to be rushed to the hospital because her uterus fell out and landed on the floor.  I don’t say you are a liar, I say I hope you feel better, where is my money.

Do I have more self restraint than a congressman?  No but I have more self restraint that a nut.

[fdjake]

Perfectly put Bluemoon......PERFECT!!

[PositiveOutlook]

Fdjake,

"The DIFFERENCE between RESPECTING the President and SCREAMING..... "YOU LIE".....Directly AT a sitting President....DURING a speech that is NATIONALLY TELEVISED and held in a formal setting is VASTLY different than anything said between people on investment blogs so let's cut the cr*p right there."

In a way, it was an emperor has no clothes moment, but because I respect the institution of the presidency, I still think it was inappropriate to personalize it in that setting and say "you lie"...  maybe "not true" which would have been less personal and directed more on Obama's point.... then again, it could devolve into a Britain-style parliamentary raucus... since we're trying to emulate Britain's healthcare anyway...   

What I find interesting is that you are upset about a congressman asserting "you lie" on nationalized TV while the President is indeed lying to YOU and EVERYONE else on national TV...  that respect thing is a two-way street, yes?   

"Bush is and was a LIAR.....He SOLD us a pile of BS regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and AMERICANS DIED directly because of it.

Some people would like to gloss over that and forget it ever happened.
I'm just not one of them......"

I'm not glossing over it at all... I just DISAGREE with you... we've been down this road before, and you were not able to prove that Bush lied regarding WMD's...  which is why I said we'll have to agree to disagree...  people can just use the search bar if they are interested in that debate again...

"This health care issue is Obama's fight to win or lose.....So far he's LOSING but the battle isn't over.  Hopefully....a compromise can be reached and something can be done to improve a broken system."

See, I disagree, I think it's the people's to win or lose... Obama will only be around for so long...  but if this thing passes, it will be with us forever...  and ALL the debt that goes along with it...

I heard a congresswoman say that the private insurance companies had their chance to control costs, and they didn't...  the new commentator was quick on the draw and shot right back (I'm paraphrasing) - "Congresswoman, the government has had 40+ years to get Medicare/Medicaid costs under control, and they are growing into the LARGEST expenses of the government"...  of course she just stammered as there is no answer to that...

It was an Excellent point...  If you can't afford something, you have a CHOICE as to whether or not you still purchase it...  in the governments hands, this choice will be REMOVED from you whether you can afford it or not through mandates...

[sellnbama]

Pos and Fd,
Can we agree that at this time with congress at such a low approval and Obama's is falling.That he should have just came out and said "Look this won't take effect until 2013 anyway and we only have one shot to do this right let's all throw in ideas and come up with a solution it may take a little more time but we can't afford to do it wrong".And the majority(who still 2day @ 53%oppose)would've been on board.Pelosi would've blown up,,but look at her approval rating.He only proved he's right there with her so his approval will continue downward.WE NEEDED A LEADER NOT A FOLLOWER! 

[fdjake]

Great points both from Positive and Bama...

Yep,  I agree!!

[Hoosier4life2005]

There is nothing wrong with the Senator who called Obama a liar.  These people WORK FOR US, and if Obama is lying (he is), then it is the Senators responsibility to let us know.  Watching Pelosi's and Biden's face when he screamed that was priceless.  God.. I hate them.

[Hoosier4life2005]

Obama is not bigger than America.  Just because he is president of the USA does not give him the right to lie to our faces.  He got called out on it, which ugly old typical Washington politics didnt like.  I for one, respect the Senator who called .

[fdjake]

The only thing wrong with it was WHEN he did it.  

Saying it isn't wrong, if that's what you believe.....But SCREAMING IT while the President of the United States was in the middle of a Nationally Televised speech to Congress was in EXTREMELY POOR TASTE.

The guy's been apologizing all morning....I think the Republican leadership  came down on him like a ton last night.  They were in a NO LOSE situation until that IDIOT opened his mouth.  

[sellnbama]

Totally agree Fd,wrong place and time.When John Boener was asked what he thought of pelosi he said "If you can't say something nice,don't say anything".All in public light need to watch what they say and how they say it.Although I laughed when he so urgently blurted it out,,it was funny,disrespectful,,,,,,,but funny.Kinda like a fart in church,,,dead wrong but funny as hell.   

[Bluemoon06]

Obama is not bigger than America.  Just because he is president of the USA does not give him the right to lie to our faces.  He got called out on it, which ugly old typical Washington politics didnt like.  I for one, respect the Senator who called BS on the BSer.

Tell me you were homeschooled.  It is not the man it is the office.  Just like even his frineds can't call him by his name, they have to call him Mr President etc.  You point out what he said that was not accurate.

[Hoosier4life2005]

No, im the result of Public School, you know, the thing that our pesky government spends ALOT of money on.

I am a very respectable person.. If you guys met me in real life, you would think I was a very nice polite young guy.

I give respect where its deserved and earned.  If a man, regardless of his "office" wants to go up there and LIE (we all can surely agree hes LYING), he is not worthy of respect.  He holds a great position of office, but that does not make him the law.  This man is going around bashing and ignoring all those who disagree with his radical views.  Not only the media, but regular Americans who "interupt town halls" with their racist right wing views.

As a young guy, who wants to get out there and MAKE MONEY, your going to PUNISH ME if I dont want to buy Health Care FOR MYSELF?!  That is unAmerican.

You know what... Obama can go to hell. I would never shake this mans hands, and would spit on him if I had the chance (its against the law, but hell, he ignores it, so why cant I)

Obama is not bigger than America.  Just because he is president of the USA does not give him the right to lie to our faces.  He got called out on it, which ugly old typical Washington politics didnt like.  I for one, respect the Senator who called BS on the BSer.

Tell me you were homeschooled.  It is not the man it is the office.  Just like even his frineds can't call him by his name, they have to call him Mr President etc.  You point out what he said that was not accurate.

[fdjake]

Hoosier...

You are the ONLY person here who would ever even THINK of SPITTING on the President of the United States.

Any OUNCE of respect I ever had for you is now GONE. 

Your comment  makes me question your mental capacity and stability.

That comment was PATHETIC.

I think BUSH was a liar and one of the worst Presidents we have ever had.  BUT.....But I do respect his positions on some issues and would NEVER..... EVER.... even think of disrespecting the man in the way you described.

[Hoosier4life2005]

Read the Decleration of Independance, read the Constitution.  This man follows neither of the values put forward by these two documents.  Therefor, he is a POS in my eyes, not even worth a ounce of respect.  Same goes for Pelosi and Biden too.

I can take people who disagree with me, jake and chris, both of you are more liberal-ish, and thats fine, but what they are doing goes to a whole new level.

I respect the office of the President of America, however, the discust I have for the tyranny that the man who occupies the position overcomes that. 

Liberty < Title of being the President of the USA.

[fdjake]

You have no idea what RESPECT is.

How does your BRAIN function????  Telling people you'd like to SPIT on the President of the United States of America....

NO CLASS.....

And it's not the first time you've showed us just how CLASS-LESS you are.