House passes Health Care Plan...

[Hoosier4life2005]

Dude Jake im just playing with you... SIMMA DOWN dont get all serious. Jee willy.

Im still making a video though, im support of Pelosi and Obama (and yes Jake, there will be dancing)

[PositiveOutlook]

Fdjake,

"Americans don't want HARD REALITY.......They want EASY FICTION!!!!!"

Kinda hard to argue with that...   

[John_in_NC]

Well for the patriots in here, there is a HUGE plan in the works for a tea party/protest during the senate debate. I highly suggest you make time and save money to attend. This house vote was very tight, I can easily imagine the vote last night being very different if a million hard working Americans surrounded the capital, making so much noise, the Washington establishment themselves would have HAD to confront.

So, we got one more shot at this. BE IN WASHINGTON! Or stop complaining.

[propertymanager]

John,

I'll be there!  Is there a website that is detailing the plans for the tea party?

Mike

[Hoosier4life2005]

I would LOVE to go if I werent in college..

But to those who can make it, GO!!!  We need to stop them!

[John_in_NC]

John,

I'll be there!  Is there a website that is detailing the plans for the tea party?

Mike

Jenny Beth Martin told me she is organizing it right now. She is the same one behind the 9/12 march. The best I can tell you is sign up over at http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Register.aspx and you will get an email alert from her. Probably without much notice.

The house was very aware of our plans, the senate will be the same way. That is why the sneaker of the house didn't vote until almost midnight on a saturday.

The arm twisting and payoffs are being negoitated right now as we speak on K street in Washington for this health care bill. We have to be more organized.

[Hoosier4life2005]

Jake and Furnished.

Here is a youtube video I made of ME ENDORSING OBAMA AND PELOSI!  Im sure this will make alot of Liberals happy now that they have my support.

This is a must watch political video.  I made this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut1ifTc7aHY

[sellnbama]

John,
Please post the time/place and I'll do my best.Thanks.

[justin0419]

I'm not allowed.  Otherwise....I'd see you there.

[fdjake]

Hey Hoosier......

You REALLY DO live in your PARENTS BASEMENT!!!!!!

From what I can see, the only thing you're missing is the TIN FOIL hat so the GOVERMENT can't read your thougths!!

There somethings you DO NOT want to put into cyber space......Your little video is one of them!!

Let's say....10 years from now YOU decide to take your CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL IDEOLOGY and make an actual run for elected office....You know.....BECOME a PART of the SOLUTION!!!!
Your OPPONENT will LOVE that clip...........ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!
But my guess is you're just a COMPLAINER......You've been on this board for well over a year now........NOT ONE DEAL......NOT ONE LEAD.....You don't even ask QUESTIONS about real estate anymore!!!

Brillant KID........You've now REMOVED any doubts when it comes to exactly WHO Hoosier REALLY IS......A loud mouth KID, living in his parent BASEMENT and apparently an authority on Constitutional Law, Health Care, Politics, Conservatives values (but GAY MARRIAGE is OK )

[furnishedowner]

Hoosier,

Forget Health Care!  I'm going to vote for "Clothing Care" for you.  You are the most raiment-deprived young person I know.

Other news--Yes, the Founding Fathers were RADICALS! That is exactly what they were, and some of them died for their actions.  They were for overturning the existing government and starting fresh.

So calling Propertymanager and others who talk about war in the streets, and overthrowing the government "radicals" is as accurate as it gets.

It's really puzzling to me--the hotheadedness about getting health care for more Americans.  For helping people live better.  In my opinion, such dissent should be for stopping wars, or huge injustices.  Health care is not an injustice.  It's a sane response to the needs of the people.  And it's about time.

What are you all so scared about?

Furnishedowner

[Bluemoon06]

I agree with Furnishedowner that it would be good for everybody to have health insurance, but this bill doe not give anybody health insurance.  I am in the middle of doing my benefits as we speak (that time of the year).  My company pays $2,000/month for my benefits package minus my retirement.  This is just for insurance life and health.  Of that $800/month is health insurance. 

Look out the window.  The guy you see driving the delivery truck or cutting the grass or fixing the pipes is not going to pay $800/month or even $200/month for health care.  You can’t make them.  So everybody will never have health insurance.  So we have not solved the problem.

Is it going to be where when the cops pull you over for a faulty brake light is he going to ask for license registration and health insurance?  If he doesn’t have health insurance what are we going to do, put him in jail?

[furnishedowner]

bluemoon,

I would hope that our coming health care would be more in the line of existing Medicaid, and VA medical.  I can't believe anyone is going to jail for not having medical insurance!  That is scare propaganda just like the supposed "death panels".

I could see large companies being fined for not offering health care insurance.

Our elected Congresspeople and Senators are not loonies, and they want to get re-elected.  I'm counting on them to make this workable.  And if it's not, then it'll be amended.

Someday this fear and dissent will all be a memory.  We will think it normal to get Health Care coverage just like it became normal (after dissent) to get Social Security benefits.

Furnishedowner

[Bluemoon06]

This is just how it goes.  When I was first out of college everybody had pensions.  Retirement is a 3 legged stool.  It was then and it is now.  Leg 1 pension, leg 2 social security leg 3 personal savings.  The third leg was not strong enough so the government started 401k to encourage savings to strength the third leg.  Companies saw that and decided instead of having personnel saving be an augment to retirement they eliminated pensions altogether and all we have now are the 2 legs of social security and personnel savings.  That is why retirement no longer exists.  That is what companies are going to do with health insurance.  We are going to have government health insurance and company sponsored health insurance is going the way of the pension.

My wife and I were talking about all this Saturday night and I can see my company deciding that they will cancel my insurance give me a real nice brochure on how to sign up for public insurance give me an extra $500/month to pay for it pay a $500/month fine or tax for doing away with my benefits.  They would save $1000/month.  I would wouldn’t you?

[propertymanager]

I would hope that our coming health care would be more in the line of existing Medicaid, and VA medical.  I can't believe anyone is going to jail for not having medical insurance!  That is scare propaganda just like the supposed "death panels".

Believe it!  That is exactly what's in the bill that Nancy Pelosi and her socialist friends passed!  So, if it's scare propaganda, it's Nancy's scare propaganda.

Our elected Congresspeople and Senators are not loonies, and they want to get re-elected.

No, they're not loonies, they're SOCIALISTS and their goal is a socialist USA!  I wonder if anyone but me finds it ironic that hundreds of thousands of Americans died to preserve our capitalist system and we now have a Socialist running the government?