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« on: February 12, 2010, 02:53:11 PM »

Dear REIA Members:

The following information is extremely important!
HUD has proposed to eliminate ALL seller financing unless the seller lives in the home or becomes a licensed mortgage originator. The proposed HUD Rules interpreting the federal SAFE mortgage act can be viewed at

www.regulations.gov  Use the search parameter "HUD" and the keyword "safe".  Please review and comment regarding the impact of this broad interpretation of the law.
"In addition to establishing HUD's responsibilities under the SAFE Act, through this rule, HUD proposes to clarify or interpret certain statutory provisions that pertain to the scope of the SAFE Act licensing requirements, and other requirements that pertain to the implementation, oversight, and enforcement responsibilities of the States. HUD solicits comment on the proposed clarifications and on the regulations proposed to be codified."

History:
As you may recall, we lobbied hard last year to maintain the right for individuals to make up to five seller financed transactions per year before being subject to mortgage originator licensing, etc...  However, that law was passed subject to the Department of Housing and Urban Development's (HUD) approval of the law as "compliant" with the intention of the federal law.  If any state does not have a compliant law, the SAFE act allows HUD to implement licensing for the state.  HUD has since issued proposed rules.  In a nutshell, seller financing would no longer be allowed for non-owner occupied homes.

How YOU can help:
We learned about the publishing of the rules very late in the process... and the deadline for comment is upon us on February 16.  However, we desperately need for thousands of REIA members across the country to go on record with HUD on this issue.  We will be working to try to affect this law in other legislative ways, but cannot hope to gain traction unless our members have clearly communicated that they are opposed to this portion of the rules. This is your chance to be counted on this issue.

PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO HUD!  We have less than one week to flood this system with comments.

Follow these simple steps:

1.  Logon to www.regulations.gov  You will see two white boxes for searching
2.  On the left box labeled "Document Type", pull the menu down and select "proposed rules"
3.  On the right box labeled "Enter keyword or ID", enter "safe mortgage".  Then, press search
4.  Locate the blue search result "FR-5271-P-01 Safe Mortgage Licensing Act: HUD Responsibilities Under ...." To read the rules, click on this title.  You will be taken to another page. You will see "views".  You can click on PDF file or another symbol which will show you the rule document online.
5.  On the right of the screen, click on "submit comment"
6.  Complete the form providing required information and your comments and then submit

What do you say?
Say what you feel, but say it politely!  The message should include that you would like the definitions in the proposed rules to be changed so that private individuals can originate and service loans on properties they personally own.  Some ideas from others:

· bank loans are not available on some types of properties
· the tight lending climate has made bank financing "out of reach" for many
· seller financing is an "age old" tradition based on private property rights
· these rules would prohibit even partial seller financing - i.e. a "seller second"
· according to HUD's "Residential Finance Survey" in 2001, roughly 40% of all non-farm residential properties in the US are owned free and clear
· an estimated 6 million Americans own a property other than their own primary residence
· an estimated 4.5% of Americans own three or more properties, many purchased solely as investment properties
· 40% of non-owner occupied residences are mobile homes which are more difficult to sell with bank financing
· approximately 5% of homes in US are for sale or for lease... seller financing may be key to liquidating this inventory


The continued success of our industry as we know it is threatened by these proposed regulatory changes. Please do not hesitate to follow the steps above and make your voice heard.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 12:56:17 AM »

The Secure and Fair Enforcement Mortgage Licensing Act of 2008 (SAFE Act or Act) was enacted into law on July 30, 2008, as part of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.

The provisions of the SAFE Mortgage Act are already law.  HUD is not proposing to restrict seller financing.  It is already restricted by law.   This proposed regulation is just HUD's attempt to establish the framework in which they will implement the responsibilities imposed upon HUD under the law as enacted.

Since the law already restricts seller financing, suggesting that HUD incorporate an exception in their regulation that violates the law is unreasonable and nonproductive.

Just how I see it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 10:54:56 AM »

So how exactly will this affect subject to investing?
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 07:41:17 PM »

When you say "seller financing.  It is already restricted by law. "do you mean that any NOO would have to be a licensed mortgage originator to sell user owner financing? I thought one only had to use proper disclosures such as RESPA?
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 03:50:55 PM »

You have to read what I wrote in the context of the original post.  Look at the title -- "Owner Financing ILLEGAL" -- is just alarmist rhetoric, and false.   The SAFE Act did not make seller financing illegal.  HUD is also not making seller financing illegal.

Further in the original post you see  "HUD has proposed to eliminate ALL seller financing unless the seller lives in the home or becomes a licensed mortgage originator."  Once again, alarmist rhetoric.  HUD is not proposing to eliminate anything.  Any restrictions on seller financing in the proposed HUD regulation has already been imposed by the SAFE Act that has already been passed.

The SAFE Act charged the states with the responsibility to regulate mortgage originators, and in their failure to do so, has ordered HUD to pick up the slack.  That is what the proposed HUD regulation is intended to do in the way that HUD has interpreted their responsibilties imposed by law under the SAFE Act.
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