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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2010, 07:13:44 AM »

I agree with EVERYTHING you just said Hoosier....

Excellent points....

I also agree in PRINCIPLE with Bama.....We DO need smaller Goverment.   BUT......as I've said here DOZENS of times.....

When the PEOPLE in POWER make the LAWS.........Don't expect them to CUT THEIR OWN JOBS!!!

It's a great concept, smaller Goverment, and I TRUELY hope we get there some day....But NONE of these PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS is going to cut THEIR cushy 6 figure/year GOVERMENT JOB!!!

NOT HAPPENING....

We need STRICT TERM LIMITS for ALL politicians in this country....But try getting those PIGS to pass up their meal ticket.....NOT HAPPENING!!
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2010, 07:48:59 AM »

  I agree with you FD,,we desparetly need term limits.The system was never meant to be a lifetime job as a politician.I think most americans are waiting on November to deliver their message.According to a recent pole,,80% don't trust govt,,they took this pole 3 times because they could'nt beleive the results.

 Get ready for a record turnout in November. Cool
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2010, 02:16:58 PM »

If we have term limits we end up with the country being run by amateurs.  I think the country is too important to be at the mercy of the judgment of the prior county clerk of Mercer county.  It is not like anybody that can breathe can do the job of congressman.  There is not an infinite supply of smart people to be congress people.  An example of the problem with term limits is look at Virginia.  The governor can’t succeed himself.  What you end up with is every politician basically gets a chance to be governor.  Then you have a huge pool of ex-governors with nowhere to go.  Governor, Senator, President, and that is about it for a politician at that level.  So the governorship of Virginia becomes a parade of politicians in a 4 year interview for their next job.  Since 1990 they have had Doug Wilder, George Allen, Jim Gilmore, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine and now Bob McDonnell.  Were these guys not required to leave office after their first terms they all could have done great things for Virginia but almost all of them ended up crashing and burning trying to make the next move.

What would be better is to put guidelines on congress.  For example make congress people place their assets into a blind trust just like the president.  They would have no idea what they are invested in so they won’t know where to steer projects.  Just like in the military make them live in a dormitory in Washington and be bussed to and from the congress.  That way they will always be there for votes and committee meetings etc.  Subject them to a scorecard based on their performance each year and just before they stand for re-election.

This will require them to live to work and work to live while they are in office.

One downfall is that we may end up with some really geeky congress people using this method.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2010, 06:48:49 PM »

I'm back from the 2nd Amendment March in Washington D.C!  I'll write about my experience and observations in other posts.  As for the bailouts discussed by FDJake earlier - all I can say is NONSENSE!  ALL of the problems we had with the recent bust and with the coming collapse of our entire economy are the result of interference by the government with the free market!!!  If the free market were allowed to work, companies wouldn't take wild risks knowing that they would most likely fail and be driven out of business.  The problem is that the free market has been destroyed by the socialists over a period of decades.  Big banks, big autos, and others KNOW that they can not fail because they are "too big to fail".   Therefore, they are free to make RIDICULOUS bets and even engage in criminal activity (like selling CDO's to "investors" at the same time they were effectively shorting the same product).  They should be in jail for this activity, but the criminal activity goes so high that it will never happen).

The bailouts by the socialist Bush and the socialist Obama didn't prevent a collapse!  All that has been accomplished is to delay the inevitable and greatly intensify the coming collapse!!!
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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2010, 08:12:50 PM »

I actually agree with Mike on these scumbags doing jail time....They should!!!

But Wall St. fat cats and big business leaders have been going to jail for financial crimes for as long as jails have been around.  It doesn't change behavior because these arrogant b@stards never think they'll get caught!
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2010, 01:50:22 PM »

Now Bush is a "socialist"?

I have officially heard it all.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2010, 02:23:13 PM »

Who's the one that promoted and signed the biggest entitlement program in years (medicare prescription drugs)?  BUSH!

Who's the one that signed the original socialist bailout?  BUSH!

Who's the one who talked repeatedly about a "new world order"?  BUSH!

Who's the one who never met a spending program he didn't like?  BUSH!

Socialist?  YOU BET!  He's a disgrace and a traitor to the country! 
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2010, 03:24:01 PM »

I remember when I called Bush a Socialist a while back and I got a backlash for it.

Yes, Bush is indeed a Socialist.
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2010, 03:46:35 PM »

The most socialistic president of all time easily goes to Woodrow Wilson. I wish we hated him more than Bush or Obama. I guess that is way too long for short memories. But you want to trace the departure of the free market, and path to socialism to any one president, it's him. Well technically it was Edward House pulling the strings of Wilson. At least he apologized for it before death.
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