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American Petroleum Institute’s president Jack Gerard called the decision "unnecessary and shortsighted."

"The new moratorium," he said in a statement, "threatens enormous harm to the nation and to the Gulf region. It places the jobs of tens of thousands of workers in serious and immediate jeopardy and promises a substantial reduction in domestic energy production. No certain and expeditious path forward has been established for a resumption of drilling."

Tens of thousands of good jobs - hardly worth mentioning!

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Administration allies hailed the reinstatement of the ban Monday and said that it would not harm the Gulf’s economy.

Unless, of course, your one of the tens of thousands of people to lose their job.  Gotta be proud of a President that is so good at killing jobs!  That's why he's The Chosen One!

Here's the story:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39612.html



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39612.html#ixzz0tWaSZrMl
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2010, 08:51:41 AM »

You are very dramatic PM, although I never agree with any of your posts, it is good to read such a far far different opinion to mine.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 10:21:27 AM »

Yeah forget about the largest enviromental disaster in our nations history. Ignore what happens if that toxic oil gets sucked up in a hurricane and spread over florida agriculture or parts of the gulf shore. You want to talk about a collapse. That area will be unlivable. Orange plantations wiped out. People are already being evacuated because of just the fumes. Imagine if that crap ends up all over their homes

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 10:50:13 AM »

So you're for destroying tens of thousands of additional jobs because of one accident.  That doesn't surprise me!  Has it occurred to you that this only further damages the Gulf Coast?
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 11:15:25 AM »

R u seriously downplaying the LARGEST ENVIROMENTAL DISASTER IN OUR RECORDED HISTORY? Just an accident?

You are seriously delusional man.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 11:19:19 AM »

No, not downplaying it.  I'm just not for compounding the damage by intentionally killing tens of thousands of good jobs - ARE YOU?
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 11:24:39 AM »

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What about the MILLLLLLIONS of people and/or wildlife that would have to be displaced if the disaster would worsen or occur again?

Now that's compounding.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 11:39:48 AM »

I am for protecting that entire area of the country. Like I said what happens if it happens again or a hurricane spreads that over the florida agriculture? The damage could last for years. What about those jobs? What happens then? What about the fisherman that will be out of a job? Or the restaurant workers?

There is no definite answer for this disaster. But making sure that there are not MULTIPLE other ticking time bombs out there is not a terrible thing.

Stop being so short sighted. Not everyone can sit on their couch and collect welfare oops I mean section 8 rent checks.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 11:54:32 AM »

Normally throughout our history it has been “sacrifice the few for the many”.

What I am reading is “sacrifice the many for the few”.

Until the problem as it exists with drilling is resolved, it should be stopped until the problem is resolved.  There already is enough damage without compounding the issue by allowing drilling to continue without safe guards, which has the possibility that the many more on the (Gulf Coast) will be sacrificed.

However, there are some that believe by letting them drill without safe guards, there will be more Section 8 renters from a larger disaster, which would put more money in their pockets.

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 12:03:38 PM »

Normally throughout our history it has been “sacrifice the few for the many”.

What I am reading is “sacrifice the many for the few”.

Until the problem as it exists with drilling is resolved, it should be stopped until the problem is resolved.  There already is enough damage without compounding the issue by allowing drilling to continue without safe guards, which has the possibility that the many more on the (Gulf Coast) will be sacrificed.

However, there are some that believe by letting them drill without safe guards, there will be more Section 8 renters from a larger disaster, which would put more money in their pockets.

John $Cash$ Locke


It's my understanding, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that the spill was caused by BP  substituting a tried and true disengagement procedure with one that was faster, cheaper, and not nearly as reliable. The safeguards were there but ignored.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 12:06:56 PM »

I feel terrible for the wildlife. You can call me a bleeding heart all you want but seeing the affect of this accident on the wildlife in the area is heartwrenching to me. There is a great article in the USA today about all the birds that are going to migrate south for the winter that are going to fly smack into this thing.

I am all for drilling in the gulf as long as it is done safely. My parents live in Pensacola, Florida. My family is directly affected by this. I can tell you that not everyone in the area is opposed to the ban. Obviously the people with the affected jobs are going to have a one-sided opinion but there are many other residents of the area that feel that the ban is a good thing.

Mike your not even down there. All you are doing is trying to pin more job loss on the President. You could care less about the loss of the white sand beaches. Or the dead sea life. Or the loss of tourism. Or the poor health of the residents resulting from the fumes.  I bet you still buy gas from BP stations up in Ohio.

In the words of Commander Spock "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 12:20:23 PM »

jfpen,

Truthfully I am not really positively sure what the actual cause of this disaster was, I am sure however, there will be a report on what actually happened.

A full report is in progress as I understand it will lead to proper safeguards and will hopefully stop this from happening again.  Not at all defending BP, bottom line, they are responsible and should have to answer for what happened.

John $Cash$ Locke

PS:  Spock for president!
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 12:32:06 PM »

If spock was President we would at least know that decisions were based on data and logic. Not emotion and personal feelings.
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