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« on: April 17, 2011, 06:59:55 AM »

     Over the weekend the FBI seized the domains of the largest internet poker sites. PokerStars and  Full Tilt are no longer offfering play to U.S. based players. I work, I pay taxes, I have no other vices except for I enjoy to poker online at my convience from my laptop in my home. I do not need protected, if I don't like a site then I will stop playing there.

     I understand the need for revenue but my gov't seems to be a contractor who overpays for materials, labor, and is slow to get anything done. They gladly pass the cost on to me and expect me to work harder to fund their irresponsibility.

     It is just mind boggling that child molester's get probation, I can suck down alcohol til I croack, fire up a marlboro blacken my lungs and get cancer, but need protected from the evils of playing poker online, but can drive 15 minutes to casino.

     I will sure be glad when I make my first BILLION and can hire lobbyist's to protect me from taxes.


http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/April11/scheinbergetalindictmentpr.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 09:25:28 AM »

no comment......

still savoring from your last post:

http://www.ruthschris.com/

-Mike<total basketcase when it comes to poker
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 10:26:11 AM »

Youll hear no complaints from me.  I hate our Government.  I do LOVE the few rights our Constitution grants us, but we dont follow that anymore, so for how long will we have those rights?  It used to be that you couldnt tax income, but now they take 25% from me.  I would love to be saving to my 30k without gettin taxes 25%, it would happen a whole lot faster!

I work at a prison as a nurse.  Yesterday, on intake, a guy for 40 years for a Meth bust.  Later that day, I intaked a Child Molester, he got 3 years.  I also see MANY people get 5-6 years for pot.

5-6 years for pot
3 years for child molesting,
40 for meth.

Dont want to get into details here, but I see MANY MANY murders/child molesters get off easier than drug busts.  Does anybody honestly feel that druggies are worse than child molesters/murders?  Discusting.

Makes sense?

Execute the rapists/murders/sex offender for the love of God.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 04:58:12 PM »

Youll hear no complaints from me.  I hate our Government.  I do LOVE the few rights our Constitution grants us, but we dont follow that anymore, so for how long will we have those rights?  It used to be that you couldnt tax income, but now they take 25% from me.  I would love to be saving to my 30k without gettin taxes 25%, it would happen a whole lot faster!

I work at a prison as a nurse.  Yesterday, on intake, a guy for 40 years for a Meth bust.  Later that day, I intaked a Child Molester, he got 3 years.  I also see MANY people get 5-6 years for pot.

5-6 years for pot
3 years for child molesting,
40 for meth.

Dont want to get into details here, but I see MANY MANY murders/child molesters get off easier than drug busts.  Does anybody honestly feel that druggies are worse than child molesters/murders?  Discusting.

Makes sense?

Execute the rapists/murders/sex offender for the love of God.


Druggies or Drug Lords?  I always hear of pot and meth addicts getting off on a fine and probation.  That's a druggie.  A 40 year sentence sounds like a Drug Lord.  Drug lords put hits on people and get people executed.  They push drugs on teenagers that end up becoming prostitutes to pay for their habit.  I agree that sex offenders should get much longer sentences, but downplaying a 40 year sentence for a Drug Lord doesn't sound right either IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 05:14:09 PM »

He got busted for cooking up a bunch of meth. They are dangerous because Meth labs can explode.. but come on...Meth labs are pretty common in my area sadly, and some people get away with just a week in prison, and some people get really busted.  But the way the system works is, it actually ends up being more like 20 years with good behavior.  I talk to the guy sometimes because hes a offender worker, and he isnt violent at all, you can tell he just likes drugs. 

Meanwhile, murders/child molesters are happy that they are getting out after serving less than 10 years.  love the system, LOVE IT!!!! Justice for all baby, JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!
Youll hear no complaints from me.  I hate our Government.  I do LOVE the few rights our Constitution grants us, but we dont follow that anymore, so for how long will we have those rights?  It used to be that you couldnt tax income, but now they take 25% from me.  I would love to be saving to my 30k without gettin taxes 25%, it would happen a whole lot faster!

I work at a prison as a nurse.  Yesterday, on intake, a guy for 40 years for a Meth bust.  Later that day, I intaked a Child Molester, he got 3 years.  I also see MANY people get 5-6 years for pot.

5-6 years for pot
3 years for child molesting,
40 for meth.

Dont want to get into details here, but I see MANY MANY murders/child molesters get off easier than drug busts.  Does anybody honestly feel that druggies are worse than child molesters/murders?  Discusting.

Makes sense?

Execute the rapists/murders/sex offender for the love of God.


Druggies or Drug Lords?  I always hear of pot and meth addicts getting off on a fine and probation.  That's a druggie.  A 40 year sentence sounds like a Drug Lord.  Drug lords put hits on people and get people executed.  They push drugs on teenagers that end up becoming prostitutes to pay for their habit.  I agree that sex offenders should get much longer sentences, but downplaying a 40 year sentence for a Drug Lord doesn't sound right either IMO.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 07:40:16 PM »

     I spent alot of years let's say partying. I haven't touched anything stronger than in aspirin in a long long time. Since I got married and had a family. In construction I deal with hopeless addicts and alcoholics. I watch them spend ALL their money on drugs and booze. Make $1k or more and be broke on Monday.

     Addiction and alcoholism is a disease, we should treat them as such. We need long term drug and alcohol programs that are an alternative to prison. These programs need to be years long and help these individuals to slowly become productive. It cost's $30K plus per year to incarcerate someone. The program my wife and I are working on would be self supporting and provide an alternative to prison. We need to treat the underlying cause not just put fresh paint on it.

     I'm no bleeding heart, I am all for locking up violent criminals and sex offenders. In fact I have a 256 grain solution for pedophiles but let's stay PC. We cannot continue to fill prisons full of men it is just not cost effective. As far as problems go I don't focus on the I focus on solutions. I will not say someone should unless I would. My wife is in school for this and soon we will open up our first facility. My County provides funding for these alternatives to incarceration at a rate of $69 per day, $2070 per month. You can see the profit potential and we will be helping to solve a community issue.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 10:15:19 AM »

GRIDcorp,
Very interesting post.  Tell us more about your $69/day/person incarceration solution when you can.

I know of people in Kansas City who have a thriving business housing mentally/emotionally handicapped in group homes.  They put 2-3 in one bedroom, and have a housekeeper helper go to each home.  A labor intensive and needed service.  That is extremely profitable while providing absolutely essential housing.

Sadly, they are now gearing up and buying more homes to house the coming flood of BRAIN-INJURED MILITARY VETS COMING OUT OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

Please share your plan when you can.

And Josh, looks like you are moving up and getting lots of experience.

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »

     My wife is in school and working on a degree that is a combination of criminal justice and social work. Her desire is to work with addicts. I struggled with addiction for years and have been in recocery for almost 7 years. In construction I have a steady stream of people who become projects. It can be frustrating and tedious butit  is rewarding to someone overcome such a huge obstacle.

     I have an associalte the runs a recovery house in Pittsburgh. The County pays $69 per day, to house them. He also has a team of counselor's that meet with the residents in group and one on one settings. These services are billed to whatever medical coverage the person has. The rate for livivng here is roughly $750 per month non county funded. 5 people will be housed in a three bedroom unit.

     This is a very labor intensive business venture. It is not passive income but the potential is huge. The govt is moving toward treatment and only long term options will be successful. As I stated we cannot continue to lock these individuals up and release them with no plan for reintegration. From an honest perspective you cannot release a guy after year or more in jail, with no clothes, no home, no job and expect him to get on his feet. Especially when they are not used to functioning in normal society. Spending time in jail may awaken the individual to the fact that their lifestyle is not working but releasing them to the same place in a worse state will only lead them back.

     The plan in a nut shell is to take an individual put them in a supportive enviroment to help them stay clean and sober, get them to work and show them the value of leading a productive life. Over time a year or more the ups and downs will come and go but having a support system that leads to success is a benefit to society.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 04:21:35 PM »

     I forgot to mention that the residential facilities can be located in homes in areas that are considered less desirable for rentals because those you are serving are located in these communities.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 05:38:12 PM »


GRIDcorp,

I think that your project is a great one. I wish you & your patients great success. Your goal is certainly a noble one.     
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 02:24:33 PM »

GRIDcorp,
Your plan sounds great and hugely beneficial to society.  We have a distant family member who just did 7 years of hard-time in a CA. Federal Penitentary FOR HAVING AN UNAUTHORIZED WEAPON.  He had a record, and wasn't supposed to have a weapon at all.  But he lives in a cowboy culture where you gotta have your boots, your belt, your jeans, your gun.  He got drunk and arrested.  Because he had a gun.  He had the gun because he was drunk.  And stupid.

Six months of alcohol rehab would have done him a lot more good than trying to stay alive in the pen with murderers, gang members, and Neo-Nazis.  For 7 years.  He is traumatized, and back in society again, drinking.  Trying to keep a job.

The system is fatally flawed.

You will be doing a huge public service if you create your half-way home.  With drug/alcohol rehab.  It is the way of the future.  We can not afford the huge cost to our society to keep locking up substance abusers.

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 05:45:29 PM »

     I agree 7 years in jail does nothing to fix the problem. Even if a guy has to do time lets say 5 years then 2 for a slow reintegration. It just doesn't make sense to me how the system works. So I will do what I can to affect a change.

      Thanks for the support. We are going to getting up and running in the next year or so have some logistical concerns with regulations and staffing. All in due time.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 01:14:53 PM »

And Barry Bonds has to go to jail for playing baseball.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 02:33:20 PM »


No, Barry Bonds has to go to jail because he's a druggie AND he lied about it...now he'll go to jail and NOT to Cooperstown.

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 03:39:37 PM »

No kdhastedt people lie everyday and don't go to jail.  He is not a druggie anymore than people taking Viagra are druggies. He is going to jail for playing baseball.
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